Once a point is made on the first roll or a come point on a succeeding roll, you may take the. In order to tell how many numbers youve hit during a roll at the casino craps table, the easiest way is to put chips aside as you roll. You use one-dollar chips (usually white) for one through four, then a red chip for a five, add white for six through nine, then two reds for 10 and so on. To roll a 2, 3, or 12 on the come out roll. A player betting on the Pass line or Come loses on crap out, but the roll does not lose when a point is established. Don't Pass and Don't Come wins if a 2 or 3 craps is rolled on come out, but ties (pushes) if a 12 is rolled on come out.
Craps Rolls NamesWith 10 players, between 80 and 100.
With 10 players, between 80 and 100.
Craps, of course, is a male-dominated game, so we hear the roll of 2-3 is also known as the “waitress roll,” because it’s a “pair and a tray.” Naturally, our list isn’t complete. Names like “boxcars” for 12 have sometimes been replaced with colorful counterparts. But if you're undaunted and really want to test your system, read on. The wrong way to test your system is to gather random roulette spins, baccarat rounds, or craps rolls and then apply your system to it. The reason this fails is that it's impossible for you to hand-check several thousand rounds.WOW thats it? I wonder how they rate comps? They must just have a universal formula they always use? and dont change their EV based on how many people are at the table. For example they always assume 120 rolls per hour no matter how many players are at the table. So if you are playing at a table with 3 players you are getting ripped off on comps? But if you are at a full table(16 players) you are getting over comped?
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One reason these darned dice setters are so hated is the house just wants to keep the dice moving. I've never seen dice move faster than on those day boats in Florida. The Strip is fast in Vegas, the downtown and locals casinos are thought to be generally slower sometimes of necessity due to inexperienced dealers.
Its the same way with blackjack. Those boats deal very fast.
Even in a place like Hawaiian Gardens in Los Angeles, bingo numbers are called out every 4.2 seconds. Speed is the essence.
The house edge is zero if the dice are stationary. The house edge is zero if the blackjack dealer is shuffling. Its 'action' times 'house edge' but its decisions per hour that count.
As for the casinos just picking a number and going with it for Comp purposes: that is fine with me. I'd rather wind up on the wrong side of a rough rule of thumb than have them take time to be precisely accurate. Those blackjack dealers may soak their wrists in liniment every night. I don't know, but they sure make money for themselves and for the house only when dealing, so they deal very fast or they get fired.
Its also one reason why I just pick up two dice and throw them. No song, no dance, no hem, no haw. No incantations about chicken dinners, No Baby Needs New Shoes. No This, No That. I pick the dice up and lob 'em against the back wall. I absolutely loathe all these superstitious types who do anything else but pick up the dice and roll them. If the Stick pushed the dice out to you, its time. You pick them up and you roll them. If hands are in the way, curse and yell if you want to but roll the bones!! Craps is not like Baccarat wherein everyone tries to slow the game down a bit in a campaign against the House so as to score a little 'extra' high class booze or something. Craps is Action. Want to rub a bald head for luck? Sure, Lady but do it on your own time! Want to have chicken for dinner? Go ahead, Jerk, I sure ain't stopping you from it. Just pick up the darned dice and hit the back wall with them.
With 10 players, between 80 and 100.
I will second that I asked a casino manager the number he wanted per hour in class and this was exactly what he stated.
do you think an average craps games gets. No how many points are passed, but just total number of rolls. Now im sure it depends how many players are at the table because the dealer needs to take and pay bets after every roll..But lets say the table is a little over half full and there are 10 players. How many rolls do you think there would be per hour?
The per-hour goal I've heard is 102 at a full table.
Now obviously in the early going the rolls came quickly. But when 'real money' was on the table? It was a mess. When one player said same bet another player said 'take my bets off,' and then the player who said same bet would say reduce me to half. And then another player would say off, and another would say press, and then everyone would change again.
Making matters worse, most of the players were friends and their wives were at the table telling their husbands what to do and the whole process would start over. And the shooter would throw another number..
House Edge of BJ during a shuffle is zero and of craps during all the hoopla of chicken dinner. Thats why stickmen are so important in setting the pace of the game. Don't run over the base dealers but do give them the 'call' clear and crisp and a patter that tells them what to do in what order.
The Florida Boats are fast because the crew gets constantly reminded of be fast or be gone.
Strip casinos tend to be fast, downtown is a bit slower and local casinos can be fairly relaxed, particularly if its a break in dealer learning his trade. Remember, casinos do have surveys in progress and MBA types with stop watches from time to time.
If you consider yourself to be a serious craps player, you probably know the details on your personal record for longest consecutive roll.
In a highly volatile game of chance like craps – which affords the average shooter just 8.5 rolls before they “seven out” to end the table’s fun – going on an extended streak of success as the shooter can be an unforgettable experience.
There you are playing baccarat, taking center stage while an entire looks on with bated breath as you prepare to roll. You’ve already hit a few point numbers to cash in Pass Line bets for your fellow players, so excitement is in the air. The dice keep tumbling and dodging the dreaded 7 with a point number set, landing on every alternative number a time or two to produce winners for the exotic bettors.
The clock keeps ticking and you keep rolling winners, and before you know it, you’ve just set a new highwater mark for your longest stretch as a shooter without sevening out. Eventually, the party ends when the dice show 4-3 on a 9 point, but no bother – you nearly managed to eclipse the one-hour plateau with a 53-minute roll.
In most Las Vegas casinos, a roll like that would cause an immediate buzz across the gaming floor, both among players and dealers alike. And for good reason, as the average craps roll tends to last for just about 20 minutes.
So what if I told you a tourist from Honolulu, Hawaii once held the dice in hand for three hours and six minutes without ever sevening out?
That incredible craps session lasting 118 straight seven-less rolls might sound like one of Sin City’s infamous myths, like pure oxygen pumped into the air supply to keep losing gamblers blissfully unaware. But if you pay a visit to the classic California casino in Downtown Las Vegas, you can still find a full-fledged shrine to the original “Golden Arm” himself – the late Stanley Fujitake.
Fujitake Sets a World Record for Longest Consecutive Craps Roll
Back on May 28, 1989, Fujitake and his wife Satsuko took advantage of a Hawaii-focused travel promotion offered by the California Hotel & Casino to make one of their regular visits to Las Vegas.
An avid craps enthusiast herself, Satsuko Fujitake taught her husband the game during their courtship. As she told Hawaii News Now in 2009, shortly after Fujitake’s record finally fell (more on this to come), Satsuko soon suspected her husband had been bitten hard by the craps bug:
“Mom, where is Dad going out all the time? I said, ‘Well, he must have trouble with his stomach, he’s going to the bathroom.’
I didn’t believe that, I knew what he was doing – he was on the table every time he went out.”
So it was that Satsuko woke up one morning to find her husband’s side of the bed hadn’t even been slept in. That’s because Fujitake has spent the night putting on one of the greatest gambling shows Las Vegas has ever witnessed.
The action started around midnight when Fujitake – a mild-mannered man of diminutive stature who looked every part the average Las Vegas tourist – placed a simple $5 bet on the Pass Line.
Over the next 3+ hours, Fujitake could do no wrong with the dice, rolling over and over again without sevening out. As the epic rolling session progressed, onlookers crowded the table and wagered everything they had to get in on Fujitake’s good fortune.
Guido Metzger – who worked as a dealer at the California back then before rising to become director of casino operations for parent company Boyd Gaming – recalled the frantic crush of bettors surrounding Fujitake in an interview with Boyd’s Buzz:
“They had trouble keeping up with the chip payouts that night.
My table was empty. But there were at least 30 to 40 people trying to place bets at his table.
They couldn’t get fills to the table fast enough and had to start issuing scrip [casino credit] because not enough people were going to the cage and cashing in their chips.”
What races make up the triple crown in horse racing. With winners coming on every roll, the California’s coffers were soon being drained for six-figure sums. The outlays became so onerous that John Repetti, casino manager for the California at the time, was called in from home to supervise the situation.
As he told the Los Angeles Times in a 2017 retrospective on Fujitake’s record-setting roll. Repetti was literally roused from his slumber in order to personally monitor the increasingly expensive craps game:
“The first call came and he’d been shooting for an hour, and we were losing a couple hundred thousand dollars at the time. I said if he continued, to call me at every $100,000 loss interval.
Well, the calls kept coming every 15 minutes. Another $100,000. And another $100,000.
After the fourth call and fifth call, I decided I’d better get some clothes on and get downtown.”
A seasoned veteran of the casino gambling industry, Repetti knew instantly that he was witnessing a historic run of good luck, as he told News at the Cal a few months afterward:
“Half an hour is average, over an hour is amazing, but more than three hours is totally astounding.”
In the end, Fujitake held the dice for 118 consecutive rolls without sevening out, a feat which earned him $30,000 in winnings.
But according to David Strow, who serves as vice president of corporate communications for Boyd Gaming, Fujitake was hardly the biggest winner to benefit from the legendary roll. As Strow remembered it in a 2017 interview with PokerNews, Fujitake’s fellow players placed larger bets along the way and wound up winning upwards of $1 million:
“That was one of the ironic things about his roll – the other players at the table ended up winning a lot more money than Stanley did!”
Wife Remembers the Late Legend and Love of Her Life
Stanley Fujitake passed away in 2000 at the age of 77, but he was survived by his wife Satsuko and their sons Dennis, Lester, and Kevin.
And while the children may have wondered where Dad was during those late nights at the California’s craps tables, Satsusko told Hawaii News Now that she is glad Stanley was able to enjoy the game he loved so dearly:
“It was a miracle, because it’s impossible to hold the dice.
It doesn’t happen all the time, maybe it’s only once in a lifetime deal.”
Satsuko was there that night, but after wandering the casino floor for a while, she couldn’t find the small of stature Stanley amidst the crowd. Later on, as she played video poker in another area of the casino, Satsuko found herself surrounded by well-wishers celebrating her husband’s new crown as the King of Craps:
“People came up to congratulate me and I thought, geez, I didn’t do anything, I didn’t even hit a royal, why are they congratulating me?
Then I realized, he was the one with the dice.”
Fujitake’s Record Gets Smashed in the Garden State
For 20 years following his world record roll, nobody could top Fujitake’s mark of three hours and six minutes without turning over the dice.
The record stood until 2009, when a craps rookie named Patricia Demauro visited the Borgata casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey on a whim. Bored with the penny slots, her pal invited her to take a crack at craps, leading to one of the more improbable feats in gambling history.
DeMauro rolled 154 times consecutively without sevening out, a session which lasted four hours and 18 minutes altogether – or a full hour longer than Fujitake’s previous record.
When asked about her late husband’s historic feat falling into second place, Satsuko Fujitake told Hawaii News Now that Stanley’s record run will always be number one in her heart:
“As my husband of 54 years, in my heart, he is still the champ to me and will be forever.”
The “Golden Arm” Club Carries on Fujitake’s Legacy in Fine Fashion
In 1992, the California Hotel & Casino commemorated Fujitake’s record roll by creating the “Golden Arm” award.
Ever since then, any craps player at the California who can roll for one hour or more without sevening out earns entrance to the Golden Arm club. Admission comes with a plaque memorializing the date and length of session, while members are given a snazzy blue shirt proclaiming them to be Golden Arms.
The name comes straight from Fujitake himself, after the proud craps player told Repetti that “this arm is golden” upon receiving a check for $30,000. Fujitake went on to top the 60-minute mark without sevening out on three other occasions, proving that his proficiency with the dice was no fluke.
You can learn more about the Golden Arm club – and the California’s annual craps tournament held in Fujitake’s honor – in this profile by the L.A. Times.